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How about Session (notes from Session discussion)?

If goal of all gatherings is discipling…
and all ministries are moving us towards this or towards other discipling ministries…
what about session?
are we doing this? are we discipling and equipping other disciples?

Yes… could do better…

Need to shift communication:
there’s not good communication bw session and congregation… all doing own things, not all on same path in same direction or we’re not aware of being on same path and in same direction
we used to put condensation of session minutes in presbyteer… we could put it on website. people want to know but we don’t have a way to let them know.

Most of us are in small groups, let’s look at that in session:
how about we break into small groups for the first 30min and do our discussion there?

How are we doing (notes from Session discussion)?

If our mission is to equip disciples who are making disciples, how are we doing?

Need to train leaders/shepherds who disciple
Need to have common language/culture shift

Reframe existing programs to discipling programs

We are doing well w teaching and relationshipping, but are not intentional enough at discipling.
Need to state this as a goal, figure out how to do it, and get to work on it.
Need to develop new leaders and a new mindset of “we all need to be in small groups being discipled and discipling.”

Need to develop biblical worldview, big picture (teachers) and application to life (coaches).

Love ’em til you like ’em!

P 142 Dr. Coleman is asked in part, “…how do you love someone you might not like?”
After some examples, he gets around to answering on p 144: “You have to love people until you can like them. The key is looking at people with the eyes of Jesus, because Jesus loves them.”


The example of the great wrestler who was not a great coach (p113) reminds me of tutors. When I was in school, tutors were usually recommended based on how well they had done in that class. And usually they did well by being either a Super Smart Kid or a Hard Working Kid.

The Super Smart Kid could tell me the right answer, but couldn’t show me why, or how to get it, or tricks to remember it. They just knew it.
The Hard Working Kid at one point didn’t understand the subject either, struggled through it, succeeded, and could show me how to find the answer myself.

I found the perhaps technically less smart kids to be waaaaay more helpful as tutors.

Which I think goes back to the authenticity discussions in chapter 5. If we have struggled (like the hard working kids) (and we all have), let’s not pretend we are super smart kids who “just get it,” and look down on those who “just don’t get it.” Let’s let God use the messes we’ve lived through–and some that we’ve made–to help others follow Christ, be changed by Christ, and commit to the mission of Christ (p51).


Mateen has challenged Session to lead with prayer by
1) praying during worship services (rm 2126) and
2) praying in the Renewal Service (3rd Sunday).


“Far too many of us assume that discipleship is merely the transfer of information leading to behavior modification…” Yep, I’m guilty of assuming that. Of course I know discipleship is more than that, but I often think and act as though this statement is true.

Mateen has done a better job of explaining the contrasting truth through the kingdom of God summer sermon series, but here it is briefly, from the book: “Discipleship… involves transformation at the deepest levels of our understanding, affection, and will by the Holy Spirit, through the Word of God and in relationship with the people of God.”

So I can’t just behave myself into this one!

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